Podcast - Run Last Click

User avatar
MouseChan
Posts: 931
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:05 pm
Location: Cyberpunk Version of York
Contact:

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby MouseChan » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:23 am

Social Media guru for Netrunners.co.uk

Legenadry girl hacker with awesome hair

2x Bradford SC 1x Leeds SC winner
User avatar
Brendan
Posts: 1274
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:09 pm
Location: Oxford
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby Brendan » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:38 am

This was a hilarious episode and really interesting to listen to.
User avatar
evilgaz
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:39 am
Location: Nottingham
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby evilgaz » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:57 am

Good episode as always (although I think I'm in a minority of one in not liking Hackman - I did like Quinns' gravely voice however)!

Re judging etc. I think we simply need some ground rules - what to do in certain situations. The trouble is at the minute this varies wildly from place to place and some common cases could do with clearing up with what the fix is. Stuff I've seen that gives people bad feels:

Slow play - all the time - in particular you summon up the cajones to call someone on it and they don't really improve. You have to go through the whole "I don't want to call a judge" thing... and then at Nationals for instance I know of a game where a TO was called over but then did/said nothing.

Do I want to make everyone feel pressured to rush all the time? Not really? Do I want people not getting a result at high level tournaments because people are slow? Not really either.

I think the different levels of expectation at different levels of event is a good idea - Uroborus Cup at Expo had a different feel than Nationals for example. Both were good though.

I've also had people accidentally see an extra top card and then immediately shuffle their deck because they're seen it and they shouldn't. But what if it was an Agenda, or something they didn't want? Normal practice is to ask your opponent what they want you to do - but some people don't paused, they just crack on with how their local meta deals with these things. Some guidance on the correct approach would even things out among people who don't normally play together.

Similarly I've had people take plays back - normally I'd probably be okay with this if nothing has changed, but it's nice to be asked as technically they're not allowed to. Perhaps some etiquette or informal guidelines might help here? One person used "raised voice" with me about taking something back because I hadn't reacted yet (thinking...) - I don't see why I should feel uncomfortable or pressured because someone else made a mistake - but it happens.

At high level tournaments there's got to be an element of if you make mistakes you live with them. To be honest, that's my mantra anyway. Not in all cases, but mostly if I mess things up even in casual play, I often just live with it as that's a better way of learning than being let off and trying to remember not to do it again.

There is still place for more casual / friendly rulings in more local or less official tournaments.

It would be good to have a list of stuff to refer to though, even if they're guidelines rather than rules. You can't cover all cases, but some would be good just for consistency - even in law judges have a range of sentences to hand out for various crimes - we could just as easily have a caution up to DQ for various things...

However, when you've got coverage of Worlds and to level FFG guys are making some really poor calls, the question of who comes up with rules and how they're enforced is another matter entirely!

One step forward might to be have a TO / Judge community and discuss rulings or have communal agreement on things discussed there? It would require people putting some effort into taking part, reporting there issues at tournaments and solutions they used, getting feedback from people who were in similar situations, reviewing ramifications and how things landed (how the players reacted to the rulings) etc., but would probably be a more healthy than the law being handed down in tablets of stone from up high.

You also get other things, like a fairly famous fellow on the continent who repeatedly "dropped" his opponents' decks while shuffling and had a game loss - but only after doing this for the fourth time (fourth reported time anyway) - which probably goes beyond benefit of the doubt. How do you determine if someone is clumsy or doing it on purpose? Arguably if you can't shuffle a deck without dropping it you're in the wrong game, but we all act like a clutz from time to time.

I haven't got the answers, but it does feel like we need a bit more consistency and guidance then we currently have for top level events, without going full-on draconian law. Some flexibility in suggested sanctions allows for players to be sensible with each other, rather than having to stick to a silly rule neither of them feels good about sticking to.

Word.
User avatar
Brendan
Posts: 1274
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:09 pm
Location: Oxford
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby Brendan » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:11 pm

With regards to a more strict rules enforcement thing:

There are enough important card effects (Jackson, Blacklist, Clot, Shards) and enough instant effects (rez, Clone Chip/SMC, Peddler) that playing strictly by the rules is going to require a framework of '[action], any reaction?' after every click and paid ability. It will drive us all insane unless these rules are tidied up first.
User avatar
Sixtyten
Posts: 1420
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:36 pm
Location: Bristol
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby Sixtyten » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:55 pm

MOON MONEY!
User avatar
Xenasis
Posts: 166
Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:16 am
Location: Birmingham
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby Xenasis » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:48 pm

User avatar
pruneface
Posts: 580
Joined: Sat May 03, 2014 4:30 pm
Location: Oxford
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby pruneface » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:07 pm

The onesie was a legitimate tactical decision.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:39 pm

Good to see you all getting involved in the conversation :).

New episode is up with a few emails from Magic players about tournaments.
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... erway.html
Enjoy.
User avatar
Sincil Banks
Posts: 231
Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:28 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby Sincil Banks » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:50 am

User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:32 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... -lane.html
We look back at some older cards to see if they have improved with age.
User avatar
mendax
Posts: 867
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:32 pm
Location: Bristol
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby mendax » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:10 pm

You appear to have confused Cerebral Imaging with Chronos Protocol.
User avatar
evilgaz
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:39 am
Location: Nottingham
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby evilgaz » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:28 pm

Viper! The secret is out! It's arguably my favourite HB ICE. Sexy times.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:15 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... limey.html
We talk about what to do after you buy the Core set.

@evilgaz The sexest
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:08 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... ywood.html
We talk about the cards of Old Hollywood.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:35 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... ntity.html
We answer questions from listerners about identities.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:35 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... orrow.html
In this one we talk The Universe of Tomorrow! Also, patreon! www.patreon.com/runlastclick
User avatar
Sixtyten
Posts: 1420
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:36 pm
Location: Bristol
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby Sixtyten » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:57 pm

MOON MONEY!
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:19 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... onins.html
We talk to Graham Linehan about Netrunner.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:33 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... oblem.html
In which we talk about deck building with each of the new Data and Destiny runners.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:20 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... orlds.html
This week we have a natter about worlds with a member of Team GB.
User avatar
evilgaz
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:39 am
Location: Nottingham
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby evilgaz » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:30 pm

Ah fun times! Great to relive some memories and also get a shout out! Good work from HGV, although in the time allowed he could only recount a fraction of the stories from the event.

Look forward to taking a bigger team next year!
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:54 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... stiny.html
Where we talk to Timmy Wong about Worlds and D&D.
User avatar
evilgaz
Posts: 379
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:39 am
Location: Nottingham
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby evilgaz » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:08 pm

With or at? ;)

Fun episode as always guys. Turns out one of my mates knows Eady as well, but didn't know he was a geek. Small world.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:59 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... galoo.html
This week we do a bad am-dram Christmas story and finally do The Book Club on Glasshouse.
User avatar
RunLastClick
Posts: 97
Joined: Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm
Location: London
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Re: Podcast - Run Last Click

Postby RunLastClick » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:45 pm

New episode is up!
http://runlastclick.blogspot.co.uk/2016 ... ntlet.html
We talk about our experience at a Netrunner gauntlet and maybe there is something else too...

[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1107: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Return to “Netrunner Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests