Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

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Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby shanodin » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:13 am

Article: http://netrunners.co.uk/articles/tourna ... ional.html

Regular contributor Dave 'Cerberus' Hoyland is back with a tournament report from the recent 66 person event in Stockport, where Dave fought his way through 6 rounds of Swiss, an overnight stay in Stockport, and a 2-game winner's final to claim victory. His article contains some musings on the meta, on intentional draws, and a full match by match recap of the event. Congratulations Dave and once again, a huge thanks for taking the time to write up this report for us.
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby GuyCliquil » Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:57 pm

As I said on slack great article.

One thing that jumped out at me from the article was the way in which your play and decisions for what deck to play are informed by what seems like a strong network of like minded and talented players. I believe in R1 of Stockport I played against someone who you worked with - I think the Mark mentioned in this article (I am not fantastic with names) - and he was running at least a similar corp to you and it occurs to me he may have been running the same style of runner (I never did see his influence spread and an apocalypse might have been his plan had I not stumbled my way to a kill first).

Is this something that you have deliberately set out to create or is it something that has just happened because you have become friends with these people through tournaments and such like? It might be a slight chicken and egg thing but did you get to know people first socially and then develop into Netrunner people that have informed your game (and presumably vice versa) or do you seek out players you respect to craft/practice with and then, presumably, some friendship develops.

If you think it might be an integral part how would you recommend aspiring champions out there to develop such a thing?
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby Nemamiah » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:34 pm

Mark and Dave build, test and discuss together frequently. They often play identical decks, but they were on different runners at Stockport.

I've half typed out a fairly long and rambling answer to your question about testing and discussion groups, but figured I'd give Dave a chance to respond first (as you addressed the question to him!) and me time to get my thoughts in some semblance of an order. It's usually a fairly critical part of being a good player, though.
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby GuyCliquil » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:37 pm

Whilst I did the direct the question at Dave I would certainly be interested in others' answers fwiw
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby Cerberus » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:23 pm

Chris, definitely answer as your view is just as valid as mine.

Guy, to answer the question, Mark started playing Netrunner just over a year ago and wanted to play competitively and so I've been teaching him I guess and he's now my main testing buddy. We often play similar decks because we have discussed what we think the meta is going to be like and what the right deck is.

I try and keep on top of what the great UK players are thinking of playing because I want to ensure I have a good match up against them. If you make the wrong judgement call you can suffer horrible loses but you can get easier games if you get it right. Siphon Whizz that Timmy played is a great example of that meta call.

I also chat to a lot of great players around the world and generally keep on top of what is winning tournaments and is popular on NetrunnerDB. These things all influence the meta and you likely need to be aware of them to make a good meta call.

The meta has been criticised as being quite rock, paper and scissors recently, and therefore making the right deck call is especially important, but it's always an important skill.

In all honesty I don't do enough testing, but Mark and me always try and test the top decks because we need to play them to understand them and know how to beat them. Also knowing how your deck functions against a particular top deck is very important.

I may be waffling on now, but does this answer your question? Happy to answer more if you have follow up?
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby Nemamiah » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:41 pm

GuyCliquil wrote:Whilst I did the direct the question at Dave I would certainly be interested in others' answers fwiw


Sure, I knew it wasn't exclusive. It's just the first time I tried to answer it came out all garbled.

There's really a lot to this question. The first and unequivocal point to mention is that your mileage may vary. Not everyone functions in the same way, which is obviously fine.

In general though, I'd say assembling a circle of players like Dave has described is a huge help if you want to be a competitive player. Because people tend to pick up the game at different times it's probably normal for one player to teach another, but that's not really the salient point. The key point is that having someone else with similar goals and desires let's you test more, bounce ideas around, double check your assumptions, gives you an outlet to vent when required and means there's someone to change the CDs when driving to a tournament. Most of the benefits are obvious, but the key one is that more people gives you much more coverage in building, testing, analysing and tweaking decks.

It doesn't necessarily need to be someone in the same geographical location as you, either. The important point is that you're both looking to achieve the same thing, but the miracles of technology mean that talking and playing online are perfectly viable. If one of you is a casual player who enjoys making cool and novel decks and one is looking to be a high end tournament player (and sadly, the two are probably mutually exclusive) then this sort of relationship probably won't work. You can obviously still play together, chat about Netrunner and have a good time, but you shouldn't schedule too many chats about the meta, deck tweaks or the like.

One other point to consider, albeit a slightly trite one, is that teaching someone else to play at a high level will normally make you better at the game too. It will help you to think through and reassess core concepts, and explaining them can solidify your own grasp of the game.

On a personal note, I have one other player in Exeter that I test, talk and travel with. I also talk with a bunch of people online, either individually or as part of a group. Card games are a social thing, and tournaments are a ton more fun when you travel with friends and then hang out with more friends once you get there.

Finally, all the good players I know do this sort of thing, but they're all also confident enough to know when to make their own decisions and choices. At the end of the day, Netrunner is a game you have to play by yourself.
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby Cerberus » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:48 am

Chris, it seems to me that we could write an article on this if you are game? Perhaps include a few of the other top players?
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby Nemamiah » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:42 am

Yep, I'm totally up for that.

I've been mulling over some sort of one-off or series of articles in my head (preposterously grandiose working title: The Competitive Player's Handbook) that covers this sort of thing, all the extras and fripperies that help you be good at Netrunner.
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Re: Stockport Regional 2016 Tournament Report

Postby Brendan » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:39 pm

As another answer to your question Guy: my attempts to encourage competitive play (as well as the more creative styles) at Oxford might not be entirely selfless. ;)

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