There is no jackson.

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There is no jackson.

Postby king_mob » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:45 pm

One day, we will look back on the time when jackson howard was legal for OP, and we will shed a single tear. Each and every one of us. "Remember?" we will say. "Remember when we played other ID' apart from Haarp?".

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Re: There is no jackson.

Postby MouseChan » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:13 pm

Remember: Damon said he won't reprint jackson

Dan said his 2nd championship card is going to be:


??
Asset
Click: Draw 2 cards
Remove ?? from the game: Shuffle up to 3 cards from archives into R&d
Trash :3
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Re: There is no jackson.

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Re: There is no jackson.

Postby Xenasis » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:01 pm

It's also worth pointing out that we don't know what sort of 'replacement' there'll be in the future. I doubt we're getting Jackson or a reskinned Jackson back (though Dan said he'd make something similar), but planning for a world without Jackson is different to planning for a world with a different 'kind' of Jackson.

There needs to be *something* to stop Noise from destroying the metagame, and not having a Jackson-like effect will be overall bad for the game. Jackson's a very skilltesting card. Cache, Faust, Chronotype will stay legal when Jackson rotates.
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Postby mendax » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:40 pm

It's going to be interesting to see the inevitable shit-storm between Damon and Dan over this.
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Re: There is no jackson.

Postby GuyCliquil » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:36 pm

No Jackson will be fine just so long as there isn't some kind of world winning deck archetype that throes cards into archives with abandon
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Re: There is no jackson.

Postby Sincil Banks » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:12 pm

I'm such a hipster, my deck already doesn't use any Jacksons :)
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Re: There is no jackson.

Postby evilgaz » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:51 am

@king_mob how do you cope with the Val DLR type decks? Drug dealer normally means they've annoyingly got 6+ cards in hand (and Paparazzi is a thing), so the usual Traffic + Scorch is off the table. Additionally without ways to keep them out of centrals, there's a lot of Siphon action.

Normal "Convenience Shop" style decks do badly in those sort of match ups and they've got a Jackson to recover key pieces.

Have you played any of those with this deck?
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Re: There is no jackson.

Postby king_mob » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:17 am

Oh gawd most of the time you just straight up lose to DLR. Both MaxX and Val varieties. This was a thought experiment more than anything.

But i would say this:

1) If you get a profiteering early you have more than enough money to trash resources as they hit the table. Aim for fall guys first, then paparazzi. DLR only if they are actively milling.
2) You dont need midseasons when they are so into tagging themselves, meaning you have cash for trashing resources.
3) 6 cards < 8 cards, so 2 scorches and a traffic accident can still win you a game even with IHW. The order you play them in is important, so count how many IHW are in the bin, how much deck they have left and make a judgement call on how many you think they have in hand. It may be the play is Scorch > TA > Scorch. It may be TA > Scorch > Scorch.
4) QPM is amazing in that matchup for obvious reasons.

Looking back at it, Id probably drop 2x TGTBT and the False lead to put in TFIN, so you can try and get the kill pieces in HQ and safe from DLR milling.

Noise as usual wrecks face against combo decks, so TFIN is probably pretty clutch in that matchup too.
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