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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby MouseChan » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:34 pm

Ah sorry, erm Ill quickly Explain how Elo works.


The elo system uses a system where hypothetical rankings determine player strength, a player with a higher ranking should beat a player with a lower one. Elo changes after each game depending if you won or lost, however it's not just a static "you win therefore take 5 points from your opponent", because a stronger player should beat a weaker player the rewards are weighted depending how unevenly matched they are by standings.

A player defeating an opponent with a much lower Elo than him will gain few rating points, where as a player who claims victory vs a higher Elo opponent will get many. Even matched players will get the average. The max number of points that you can lose/gain is set by a K value (usually 32, but can be as high as 64 or low as 16 depending on the level of event.)

Since netrunner is an a-symetrical game Elo doesn't really work as "matches" can have no clear winner or loser, it works fine how it is now, just a bit weird if you report a loss first then a win second, the win will calculate the rating swing already applying the lost games rating change, seeing you as defeating someone with (~15) more Elo than when you started.

Does any of this make sense to you? :)
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby king_mob » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:38 pm

Cool, yes it does, thanks for taking the time to explain that :)

The challengeboard site does allow for games to be reported by the winner as either a win or a tie, thinking about it now you've explained that lot it should really be 1 match reported by the winner as either outright win or tie. Sorry guys my bad :(

I think we will keep with reporting both games for the time being, to be fair on those who have already played. Lessons learned for next season i guess.
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby massisi » Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:58 pm

I'm up for playing some games, my username on octgn is massisi, best way to contact me is probably on here if you want to play :)
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby Vapo » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:49 pm

Joined up. OCTGN username is the same as here but it was taken on Challengeboards so I'm Rusty over there after my FB name.
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby Sincil Banks » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:30 pm

I'm up for a game now if anyone wants a couple of quick wins! :)
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby massisi » Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:21 pm

Can't do this evening sorry, does anyone want to organise some games for later in the week?
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby evilgaz » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:53 pm

Just had a split against Onesama - the crowd goes wild.

Should be about for a game tomorrow evening around 9ish
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby MouseChan » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:57 pm

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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby mendax » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:55 am

The difference of 2 points or w/e it is becomes irrelevant quickly, because if your rating is slightly lower you gain slightly more/lose slightly less in future games, so there's convergence.
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby king_mob » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:07 am

Memstrips deserves a chance. Memstrips.
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby mendax » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:28 am

Record the games seperately - it's cleaner for the sake of reporting and the order cancels it out relatively quickly.
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby MartinP » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:09 pm

Ill be online tonight for league play if anyone's interested
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby evilgaz » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:35 pm

Can we get a sticky post or something with everyone's usernames and / or other details? Maybe easier then to identify people and get some more games happening for people who don't know each other.
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Re: Octgn League Season 1

Postby king_mob » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:48 pm

Memstrips deserves a chance. Memstrips.
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Re: Octgn League General Discussion

Postby mendax » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:40 pm

The Valley should become legal as soon as it is programmed into OCTGN.
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Re: Octgn League General Discussion

Postby king_mob » Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:07 pm

Memstrips deserves a chance. Memstrips.

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